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will
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Posted: 19 Sep 2010 at 12:48pm |
Hi All
You may remember a while ago I was speculating about whether TI cameras which use heat rather than light could be used to locate our cryptic reptiles in the field. Although reptiles are not homeothermic (constantly 'warm-blooded') they can warm up to temperatures above the background temperature by using behavioural mechanisms such as basking or flattening their bodies, to absorb heat by radiation, conduction or both. I managed to get my hands on a TI camera and took it into the field yesterday. Sure enough, it picked out a common lizard on a branch, as well as an adder on some short turf next to a hedge. However I doubt it will substitute for footslogging, fieldcraft and the human eye, for the following reasons: first, they can't see a reptile on an equally hot background - eg a warm tree stump (a lizard became invisible, for example, in spite of holding the camera within a few cm of it); also, although the heat signature of the animal was partly visible if it was hiding in dense vegetation, there was often too much 'noise' from hot twigs, leaves etc to allow the reptile's heat signature to be distinguished from the other hot items in the field of view. Oh, and they cost a few grand, too.. Nevertheless, it was interesting to see how common lizards and adders were achieving a body temp at least 10 degrees above ambient, on a mainly cloudy day. Thermograph of lizard plus equivalent photograph of same lizard below, along with an adder. Cheers Will |
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tim hamlett
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very interesting will, cheers. tim |
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AGILIS
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HI WILL HOW MUCH DO THESE DEVICES COST/ KEITH
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will
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Hi Keith
Apparently I borrowed a bottom of the range one, costing a mere 3 thousand quid... |
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AGILIS
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Will if I order a couple is there a discount keith
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crevalle
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Wow I've never seen anything like that used for reptiles before--very cool!
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Liz Heard
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unusual and rivetting post will!
thanks for sharing your thoughts, findings and pix bit outa my price range! ben |
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will
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Thanks All; shame they're not available through Argos around 20 quid...
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Noodles
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Great idea to use it Will and interesting to see that you can get a (crude?) temperature reading also. Saves sticking a temperature probe up their arses. I know some of the bat boys use TI to 'see' bats roosting hidden behind the roofing membrane in the tile/batten void.
Inspired work Watson!
Edited by Scale - 21 Apr 2011 at 2:33pm |
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will
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Thanks! while I was out in the field it picked up a blackbird and a grey squirrel at the top of a tree, so I guess for the homeotherms it would be really useful (bats included, as you say) - but those pesky reptiles continue to be as hard to detect as ever... it was interesting to confirm that the reptiles' body temps were indeed well above ambient even on a typical autumn day - lizard at 34 deg C compared with 16 deg C ambient, for example.
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