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JamesM
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What really annoys me, is the fact that if you simply touch a specimen of a 'protected species' without a license, or are unsupervised by license holders, you're facing prosecution, huge fines and possibly even jail time, if you are caught........ but it seems as if it's acceptable to destroy their habitat.
It seems like the priorities are wrong here. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for minimal disturbance, but this takes the piss. A friend of mine said to me yesterday, "If they can get away with building on somewhere, with little objection, they will." Never a truer word spoken.
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Iowarth
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What we need is an eccentric multi-millionairre to set up a Wildlife Protection Trust with oodles of money and no function other than a) to prosecute those who flout the law (using both UK and EU legislation) - primary targets being government and governmental organisations and b) to loudly publicise all such acts Any of you won the Euromillions lately? Chris |
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Chris Davis, Site Administrator
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GemmaJF
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Nope, but if someone puts up the money, I can do the eccentric bit
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AGILIS
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Chris I am buying a lotto ticket this sarvo keith
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LOCAL ICYNICAL CELTIC ECO WARRIOR AND FAILED DRUID
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Iowarth
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I thought that was a given Gemma - most people would say most RAUKers are eccentric. I always maintained that I was designed to be an eccentric millionairre - but I only got half way there! (got mine too Keith!) Chris |
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sussexecology
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Oh boy, I wish i was a millionnaire. Dream on Chris and Keith - getting mine now! |
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Robert V
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Iowarth
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Hi Rob Dealing with your last point first - I sure didn't ask you to shut up - not even by implication! In fact, the only time anyone has suffered that on this forum is when they have descended to personal abuse. And, no, a point of interpretation - I stated that "So, it could be argued that they are, like quangos, paid by the government (i.e. us!)" That statement does not either a) say that they are a bit like quangos nor b) that the argument referred to has any validity - it doesn't! They are constrained by the relationship to not "rocking the boat" BUT that does not mean that words are not said in private - far from it in fact. And John Lennon got his words dead right - so long as they are taken literally. Regarding funding assistance with the forum, this figured prominently on the front page of the website since as long as I can remember. It is still there, in the footer, albeit in small print now (for the last two years) since the ARC/ARG contribution has reduced the costs by 50%. At the risk of having another dig (and certainly not at you!) I am bound to point out that you are the only person who asked this entirely reasonable question! Keep using the stage for comment and debate Rob, that is part of what the forum is for. Chris |
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Robert V
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Chris,
I think I may have sussed why the 'contributions' bit gets missed. When I come to rauk, my search engine jumps straight to forum so I never see the 'home page'!
Where do we send contributions - you can pm me on that if its a personal address.
As for the earlier comments from various about giving of time etc. I'm not after medals, in fact I do what I do for the love of reptiles and amphibians.
In the production of my book I was down a considerable sum (well, it was for me anyway) of money, of which I'd spent 15 years of my life in study to try to communicate an awareness to others.
I am deeply indebted to those RAUK loyalists that put their hands in their pockets and tried to help me out by buying the thing - untold thanks.
But, in fairness to all, no we don't know who the RAUK members are who are also members of ARC. In fact the member of ARC that I do know, used to work at NE, or EN or whatever heading they like to use nowadays and was a person that I appealed to for help to stop a mass destruction of adders at Waltham Abbey.
As we have all had experience with being ignored, small wonder forum poster's patience is a little thin.
I for one didn't intend that the hardworking field staff in organisations should be the target of comments regarding lack of action, far from it, my comments are aimed at top levels - they know who they are.
Oh, and by the way, well done to Ian on the Guardian bit- exceelent mate, I'll try to put something together and contact him.
Rob
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MancD
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If this damage/destruction occurred within the SSSI boundary, then I suggest that (Keith) you report it to your local Natural England office so they can check if consent for these works was issued. If not, then NE can take it on as an enforcement case for damage to the protected site.
If it falls outside the SSSI boundary, but affects sand lizards or their habitats then the police are the enforcement body, so you should give them a call. Seems that there are increasing numbers of reports of habitat damage/destruction on the forum, and lots of comments about these sites but it's often not clear if they have been reported or not. Not much point in joining in group exasperation because you think no-one will do anything, at the very least it should be reported.
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