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Hi Mick

Palmates have been rediscovered in Norfolk by Steve Prowse (NARG + NT) by looking for ponds in ancient woodland located on acidic geology and he has found that the species is also associated with Sessile Oak - he gave an excellent talk on this at the East Anglia Regional Meeting (19th Nov) and he is hoping to find more palmate newt sites - funnily enough the palmate is rarer than the Natterjack Toad in Norfolk!

Perhaps you should look for similar sites to the one you know may contain newts in the BBONT reserve

 

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Hi JC.

I've only read, or heard they're at that reserve (called the Henry stephen/C.S.Lewis Reserve where all 3 native species are meant to be)  & the area's unfortunately a bit too far from me to survey. Anyway, i wouldn't be at all surprised if the possible Palmates there were introduced. That's great news about Palmates in Norfolk by the way! 

I suppose it depends on the places in the UK i've been to but, for myself, i find the Palmate almost as rare as the Crested to come across, although thankfully Cresteds aren't rare in Oxfordshire. I just don't think Oxfordshire's got much in the way of those typically acidic ponds that Palmates naturally tend to frequent.

For studying their pond antics up close, i think Palmates are slightly more characterful, interesting & fun to watch than Smooths. Then again, i find all newts up my pond fascinating fun to spend to ages every year watching.         

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Steve mentioned that they court alot more than the smoothies- it would be worth looking for any woodland near you - if the woodland is on high ground like a hill or an acidic geology then it may well be worth looking for the newts if you have a chance.

I have looked at the geology of Oxfordshire and it seems pretty much alkaline or neutral - which possibly wouldnt be favourable for the newt?

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Yeah thats right there is a great little feature on the www.magic.gov.uk website where you map the soil scape of counties very handy to locate potential newt sites -

Jon

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aren't there palmates on the Scilly islands and either Jersey are Gurnesy?
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JC recently enquired of herp's on the Scillies & i think it was found that, of newt species, there's records of Smooths there. I'd have thought Palmates were more likely, as well as maybe a land reptile, or two, but apparently not. 

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