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GemmaJF
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It always links back to money - they get funding for these schemes so nothing is going to stop them doing. They certainly are not going to a little thing like the wildlife they are charged to protect get in the way.
Marsh any idea of when the clearance work was actually carried out? |
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AGILIS
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Perhaps tidying up sites might make them more attractive for selling off for housing development seeing flood plains are out of fashion Keith
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LOCAL ICYNICAL CELTIC ECO WARRIOR AND FAILED DRUID
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AGILIS
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THE RSPB MANAGEMENT ARE TWITTERS THAT HAVE BECOME TWATTERS
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Suzy
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It won't be any consolation to you but this is happening all over. Local people are never consulted before all this is carried out, more's the pity.
My family walked at the weekend on a small heath that I used to spend a lot of time on. Now I rarely go. I'm not sure it ever had much management, but when the RSPB were asked to do so there were so many things done to the detriment of the place. More paths were cut through blocks of heather and gorse (why?), thus causing more disturbance, whole areas were scraped and cleared (why?) and what has grown there now is best described as lawn. The Dartford Warblers seem to have deserted the place as the gorse is much reduced. Anyway family reported that more scraping is being done at this site. And so it goes on. |
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Marsh
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Keith, I don't doubt there has been worse, it's just sad for me personally. If you are Keith Corbett this is exactly the area we swapped letters about in the (very late - trying to save our ages) 70s.
Gemma...........I don't think so, I will have a look every now and then, but am worried that the site is gone. I really don't think I will see animals. Actually, I think bye, bye, Pirbright. To be honest, there are sites nearby that I have neglected, easier to get a quick hit at Pirbright than spend time searching different places. So, maybe there will be a result here and there. So, I will keep looking. But, I still haven't seen my 1st adder of the year yet, makes my year start normally. Will try this weekend. Never give up, thanks for the chat, I'll be out there this weekend. Cheers all, Marsh
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GemmaJF
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I think keith the pictures often make things look better than they are. Less soil disturbance than I've seen at some sites where they have scraped it, but this is a an almost total loss of vegetation. Particularly badly timed with animals now emerging.
Sadly Marsh from what I've experienced it's likely that you will see animals, maybe even more than usual after a vegetation clearance. It is short lived though, as predators see a lot more too.
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AGILIS
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Marsh if you think Pilbright is bad have a look back on the Method and management thread at the Hyde heath oblitration near Stoborough In Purbeck that I put on a while back and see what the rspb did there keith
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Marsh
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Hi all, thanks for the comments.
Here are some photos. The birches were a den area. The birches in the distance, before the pine, were a den area, but I must say I hadn't seen much there in the past few years. This gives some idea of the height of heather before the flailing. Pretty much all habitat gone. I'm thinking I'll be checking out some other areas now. There were tracked machinery being used, you could see the after effect of the vehicles. The areas where I have had most sightings in recent years have been wiped out so completely that I had no reference point left to work out where the den areas were located. Cheers Marsh
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GemmaJF
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££££££££££ sorry call me cynical but it's all about them getting funding to keep their jobs. They get a stack of money and the cheapest way of getting the job done is to call in the contractors with plant machinery. The rest goes to pay the wages. I think in the whole of my life it is the worst case of something simply being fundamentally 'wrong' I have ever come across. Edited by GemmaJF - 12 Mar 2014 at 6:44pm |
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AGILIS
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This is very sad reading ,its what I have been witnessing for years in many areas ,the worse thing this is the sort of thing you expect from developers but when so called self appointed environment managers ruin places of habitat it beggars belief Keith
Edited by AGILIS - 12 Mar 2014 at 7:04am |
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