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Tom Omlette
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lol no way you can wield an axe without using your back! hope it doesn't disable you for too long.
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AGILIS
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Cheers Tim I need a job 😁 keith
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dave fixx
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Cracking debate that guys. I follow Tim in my praise to all concerned. I am going to make more effort to join in with the forum in 2014. I miss you guys, especially Keith he just says what I and most of us I am sure are thinking!
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Tom Omlette
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hope so dave...we've missed you!!!
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Suzy
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Gemma is absolutely correct that you need to work within the law. I think what rankles a lot of us on here, and leads us to pushing the boundaries, is that whilst we might disturb small numbers of the protected species, we feel that large numbers are wiped out by the very organisations supposed to be protecting them!That is no excuse I realise, but it's easy to see where that mindset comes from.
I'm disappointed that over recent years more and more species have become out of bounds to all but a few (and I don't mean licensed photographers), but equally I know that public pressure is truly bad for many species. It's like not having your dog on a lead in an area where all the signs tell you to, because you feel it doesn't apply to you as yours is well behaved and does not cause damage. |
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Richard2
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Suzy, I wasn't suggesting that anyone shouldn't
work within the law. Our debate was about how the law should be
interpreted. I am not suggesting that we should see ourselves as exempt
special cases, like the dog-owner you mention, but that the law actually
permits responsible watching. Natural England confirmed this. My
concern was that in interpreting the law unnecessarily strictly we might
ourselves place species out of bounds - but I think we thrashed the
question out and got at least to a place of approximate agreement.I agree with you that the main threat to these animals comes from habitat destruction, not from people who want to look. |
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Suzy
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I worded it badly Richard, I guess.
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Richard2
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Sorry - didn't mean to bite your head off.
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GemmaJF
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I've got to say Suzy I thought you worded it very well, in fact you pretty much summed up how I was feeling about the debate.
I'm as sad as anyone that it might put people off looking. I'm more sad that I hear from schools that they are afraid to pond dip because their pond has GCN. Far sadder to me than a handful of individual wanting to view animals, is a whole class of school kids, who never get to see the amazing life that lives in a humble UK pond. |
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Richard2
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I agree with you there.
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