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nice! I love that headline 'snakes pose no risk' - how refreshing!
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Sad thing is that most of us long time herpos have all known about these snakes for some years so who is the sensational seeking twonk who has stirred up this eco panic in the las few weeks? .

Edited by AGILIS - 13 May 2014 at 9:33am
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there was supposedly a brief reference in Sunday Telegraph by Steve Jones, the geneticist, that sparked it all off Keith, but as yet I haven't had time to track this article down.
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Do you mean this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/bookreviews/10802136/Cold-Blood-Adventures-with-Reptiles-and-Amphibians-by-Richard-Kerridge-review.html
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ah, that must be it - so it was Steve Jones reviewing Richard's book, and he happened to highlight the Camden Creature since Britain's foremost geneticist lives only a few hundred metres from the Regent's Canal.  As Richard says, we have had several well-balanced articles in the past but this time it's all got rather silly, as Monty Python (not a snake) might have said...
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Interesting news from LISI:
http://londonisi.org.uk/news/

And a more informally worded report from Vice (yes, it's safe for work ): http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-killer-snakes-on-the-loose-in-britain-are-totally-harmless

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interesting from LISI - if it would be 'hugely valuable' to receive more information about their impact, perhaps they would like to contact those people who have actually studied them in Wales and London for the past decade or so?..
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Originally posted by will will wrote:

an excellent summary Wolfgang; and the Little Owl is an apt comparison with the Aesculapian snake - except that the former is a small bird with big round eyes and will therefore never be proposed as a candidate for an eradication programme whereas the latter is an evil scaly ally of the devilWink


Good point
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Seen this? 
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Which "newspaper" was that?
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