Fairly certain its a smooth newt.

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rescued off the road.

again rescued of the road, penny was for size comparison.

wondering about attempting to captive breed some to release into some nature ponds/marshy area when their big enough.

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PsYcHoTiCMaDmAn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote PsYcHoTiCMaDmAn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Fairly certain its a smooth newt. Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 4:48pm
	rescued off the road. again rescued of the road, penny was for size comparison. wondering about attempting to captive breed some to release into some nature ponds/marshy area when their big enough.

tim hamlett Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1062	Post Options Post Reply Quote tim hamlett Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 7:19am
	hi...nice pics are you sure they're smooth and not palmate newts? tim

dave fixx Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 411	Post Options Post Reply Quote dave fixx Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 11:56am
	Nice pics.Pop a pond in the garden(if possible) and in my experiance you will have no trouble breeding them.If they are in the area they will normally find your pond. Breeding in tanks is a different matter and one I have zilch knowledge for so cant help.Judging by their size I would say your a couple of years at least off breeding though.
	Dave Williams davewilliamsphotography.co.uk

tim hamlett Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1062	Post Options Post Reply Quote tim hamlett Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 12:17pm
	newts will breed in a tank. you need natural water, food and the right sort of weeds for the females to lay their eggs. however, i would definitely agree with dave and put a pond in. it only has to be small and you will still easily be able to monitor the newts progress etc. you'll get other wildlife too. tim

Suzi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1025	Post Options Post Reply Quote Suzi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 3:58pm
	I have newts in my pond but I have only had glimpses of them and never see young. I look at night also with a torch. My brother has bred them in tanks - at least you can see them easily.
	Suz

Peter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 310	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 5:11pm
	A pond is the favourite, and you can always set up an aquarium to observe courtship behaviour for a week or two during the season as well as egg laying if you provide some oxygenating plants. Looking at the solid continuation of the dorsal line on the tail, I would say that you have palmate newts. Any shots of the animal`s throat?
	BLF Dragonscapes Habitats officer Amphibian and Reptile Conservation e: peter.hill@arc-trust.org

PsYcHoTiCMaDmAn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote PsYcHoTiCMaDmAn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 9:41am
	no decent photos of the throat, most of mine I tried to get near eye level or above. plus I keep the camera in full manual, so need both hands, so getting the newt into position wouldn't be easy however, I did find another newt outside last night, and it looked quite different to what I was used to. about twice as big as the babies, but 1/3-1/2 smaller than the adult pictured at the beginning.

Peter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 310	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 1:38pm
	Looks like it may be a male palmate. It would be worth your while getting throat and belly shots (another pair of hands could assist you in this regard) which would make ID a good deal easier.
	BLF Dragonscapes Habitats officer Amphibian and Reptile Conservation e: peter.hill@arc-trust.org

tim hamlett Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1062	Post Options Post Reply Quote tim hamlett Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 5:26pm
	yep...palmates tim

calumma Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 375	Post Options Post Reply Quote calumma Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 4:01am
	Definitely palmate, one of the key things to look at is the dorsal stripe - particularly useful for identifying efts. In smooth newts, the stripe disappears along the back. In palmates it continues down the tail.
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