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FB knowles ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Hi
Does anyone out there no about the status of the European pond tortoise in southern England. There were rumours of it being found breeding at frencham ponds some years back. i know that it is a very long lived species, so i guess colonies could exist for many years without actually breeding. But does anybody have any up to date info? Fairbrass Knowles |
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Martin ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 87 |
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I've looked in a lot of ponds within Hampshire for terrapins and I've not seen any emys. All the terrapins I've spotted have been North American species, so I'm not much help.
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FB knowles ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Hi Martin,
Yes i have seen the red eared terrapins too!! even saw quite a few in ponds on a recent trip to Brittany, i wonder if they can breed in the warmer parts of Europe? Cheers, Fairbrass |
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Chris G-O ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 May 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29 |
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European pond terrapins have been seen in the last 10 years or so on the Norfolk Broads, sightings came from RSPB staff i think. I think there were intros there about 100 yrs ago.
Out of interest, i saw a red-eared terrapin on the 5th Jan 2004 in an ornamental pond in Venice. It wasn't exactly warm (c.11 degrees), but there didn't seem to be anywhere for it to hibernate really. cheers, Chris |
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Chris Gleed-Owen, Research & Monitoring Officer, The HCT & BHS Research Committee Chair
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chas ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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A "Survival Anglia" wildlife film producer met with a large female Emys orb. (Euro. pond tortoise) crossing a narrow, isolated lane in N. Norfolk in the 1990s.
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Charles Snell
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-LAF ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 317 |
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The NBN gateway has a listing for Emys at lakes nr Leicester. The same lakes are also listed as having red-ears though.
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Lee Fairclough
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Ben Potterton ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Hi I have recently been given an adult male European Pond Turtle that was found in the Norfolk Broad area and have been told of 4 others that have been found in the general area. DEFRA tell me that none exist in the Broads network but 5 inderviduals seem unusual. I have been collecting all surplus specimens from UK zoo's and hope to breed from them, but want to know if a wild or feral population exists? Any ideas? |
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Ben Potterton ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Thanks David, All of those found in and around the Norfolk Broads have come via the RSPCA and they have not been able to give me any indication on the exact spot that they were found. I am keeping the Norfolk specimens seperate from the others that I have, the Herp TAG work was by Joe Blossom, but sadly the zoo's concerned had no idea as to the origin of the stock. Joe Blossom also has some that he keeps outside all year, I will show him my stock and with any luck we will be able to decide on a plan of action. Ben.
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chas ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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David Bird's post about keeping the Remains of the European pond tortoise have been found in There is also no doubt that introductions to East Anglia have occurred; for example some were released in Blaxhall and Little Glemham in Suffolk between 1894 - 95. There have been sporadic sightings in Edited by chas |
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Charles Snell
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chas ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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It has always been assumed in Denmark that the pond tortoise died out between the iron and Bronze ages, but as David Bird points out in his last post, some were found in the 1990s of unknown origin. I have found two Danish web sites on Emys (in Danish) both seem to suggest that there are still some Emys in central Jutland. One of the sites also indicated that there are a few on the island of Bornholm and that those on Jutland had been genetically tested (8 were caught and seven were tested) the results showing that the animals were not of the type found further south in Europe. This, of course, increases the likelihood (but not proving the case) of there being being a relict population. |
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Charles Snell
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