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    Posted: 01 Sep 2006 at 6:11am

 

I would like to contact interested people who live within London to assess the interest in Herpetofauna and Herpetofauna Conservation - with a view to establishing a Amphibian & Reptile Group/network

Please send a reply to this if you would like to be involved

 

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Jon C

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Sorry about the poor grammar - an Amphibian & Reptile Group/network

 

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what would exactly be involved?
i'm a bit of a novice and nowhere near as knowledgeable as the rest on this board, so not sure if i'd be of any use.
as long as it wouldn't take up vast chunks of my time i could be interested in the amphibian side of things.
i'm in middlesex btw.

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Thats okay - it is bodies on the ground that we need in London - I am looking to get an idea of interest on this forum - the idea is that volunteering within the ARG or AR Network can be as little or as much as you want to be involved.

There are many little things that help build a base for herp conservation on a local scale - so I hope you still would like to be involved

Anymore people in London?

 

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Jon

 

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i suppose so.
here's some info on a project taken out on a pond within walking distance of my house.
its directly next to a major road, and has a parade of shops on the other side.
i was quite surprised to learn that it was so full of life.

http://www.ickenhamchurchnews.co.uk/0703/page%204.htm

scroll down about 3/4 of the page.
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Jon,

I realise you're just polling opinion currently.....

Have you considered the demarcation issue? (As you know) most biological observations are recorded within Watsonian vice county boundaries, and there's no London VC !

I guess a Middlesex group would make sense. (Crude diagram below illustrates the issue).



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Hi Steve

I am up for suggestions and I am considering the Middlesex ARG - with the London area covered by the combination of those ARG groups.

It may eventually lead to the London ARG Network being formed from the various organisations covering Greater London......

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Sounds like a cracking idea to me. It certainly looks like the Middlesex area is a gap in current ARG coverage, and a 'network' of those ARGs with areas of interest (AOI) within the Greater London Area should prevent toes being stepped upon.

I'd guess that there are two clear options for the AOI for such a network:
  • Greater London
  • Inside the M25
The former offers tighter political cohesion (one-stop shop for planning advice etc), whilst the latter would include a greater number of species (and potential 'members') and (maybe?) attract people with an interest beyond the widespread species. Option 2 would include Berks and Bucks I guess, and could provide a useful forum for all these geographically close ARGs.

It would certainally help minimise confusion caused by somebody sighting a herp in Putney/Battersea/Vauxhall finding out that their (VC) county recorder is Surrey! Maybe a virtual London ARG is an answer?

If I can help...I'd be happy to assist.


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I thought there was already a group covering the area Jon by the name of the LEHART?
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Hi Gemma

LEHART are not part of the ARG UK and so as they do cover London, Herts and small parts of Essex they are a different type of herp conservation body - a charity which has the same aims as ARG groups but carry out this activity in a different way to ARG's

There are a number of people who would like to form a group - funnily enough they are all in Middlesex - so it seems logical to form the Midx ARG so that a full compliment of ARGs can cover London - Essex, Kent, Herts, Surrey and Midx

It looks like London ARG will not be emerging but there will be a London Area of Interest - as suggested by Steve

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