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Originally posted by calumma calumma wrote:

Controlling for multiple records from the same location?


Yes, either adder has been observed in that grid, or it  has not. Multiple records are ignored.

Of all the grids where adder has been observed, 78% of those grids feature 0-10% arable or horticultural habitat type.


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Originally posted by calumma calumma wrote:

The process of calculating range using the database may take some
computation time though. If I remember correctly you mentioned that it takes
20 seconds to undertake the nearest neighbour based risk analysis. If there are
2015 squares in the county, thats an 11+ hour calculation


I think there's an easier way to do this. If the 95% nearest neighbour distance is, say 1800m, that's about 2 grids.

For each grid where adder occurs (already listed in the database), I can add the grids within 1800m as potential range, then subtract unsuitable habitat grids. This will be much faster, and considering the assumptions...probably good enough.

This should take less than a minute to calculate.


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OK...taken a while, but I've got there:

for the Surrey Vice County (not the same as the current county boundary), for Adder.
Total Grid squares = 2105
Known presence in 125 grids
Predicted presence in 281 grids
Suitable habitat in 509 grids.

Known presence:



Predicted Range:


Current Suitable Habitat:



Based on three major data sources: BRC grid listing for the vice county, CSI habitat data and the SARG records database....

All of the above calculations, including the GeoFile generation takes a little under 3 minutes for a species.

Looks like Widespread FCS determination is a goer!
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Steve, how about a single map to bring all three elements together?

Red squares to indicate areas that have suitable habitat and are within
predicted range, yellow squares to indicate areas that have suitable habitat
and are outside of predicted range - or similar?
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Aye...first comment the other half made too!

Black = known distribution
Red  = Predicted distribution
Gold = Currently suitable habitat


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More work has been done on this, particularly re habitat suitability, which has reduced the number of grids deemed to be suitable.

Probability of occurrence across Surrey for adder, based on curve fitting of nearest neighbour analysis to a hyperbolic logistic offset function looks like:


Where Y = Probability of occurrence(%) and X = range from nearest neighbour (km).  This type of function fits all the nearest neighbour analysis well, using different a,b & c coefficients for different species (d = 100: 100% probability at zero range, i.e. at a known location.).

The surface plot looks like:



The above makes no compensation for habitat, just works on spatial distribution. When you add the suitable habitat filter you get:



And when you put it all together you get a map like:



Where black grids are known occupancy, red grids are predicted range, and yellow grids are suitable habitat outside of the predicted range.


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Steve, I like the 3d plots. Very useful in visualising the data.

One of the (many) useful aspects of this type of analysis is that you can
wave a map in front of somebody and clearly demonstrate the likely
impact of habitat fragmentation on distribution.

A conservation conundrum rears its head though. Is it better to expend
limited resources protecting large blocks of habitat around core
populations and accept that outlying populations may be lost. Or expend
resources creating linkages between outliers and accept that core
populations may be further eroded.

ps. glad to see that kink at 3 km has been smoothed
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Originally posted by calumma calumma wrote:

A conservation conundrum rears its head though. Is it better to expend
limited resources protecting large blocks of habitat around core
populations and accept that outlying populations may be lost. Or expend
resources creating linkages between outliers and accept that core
populations may be further eroded.


I may be at odds with the rest of the conservation world here...

I accept that large meta-populations, linked by suitable habitat are great for stirring up the gene pool and improving fitness. However; they are also a great means for ensuring that a pathogen gets your whole population.

I'm thinking along the lines of Natterjacks and chytrid etc.

The 'happy mix' as far as I'm concerned is a mix of both, where we have large linked populations, but also a few 'reserves' from which re-population can be seeded in the event of fire or disease.

I'm happy with some isolated outliers .
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Isolated outliers are fine, so long as the populations are large enough to
be sustainable.

Some of those 'reserves' may consist of small isolated populations that
are far more likely to go extinct through all manner of stochastic
processes. Trying to manage small sites becomes an exercise in
gardening.

Surely we should be seeking to promote many large meta-populations -
some of which could be isolated. The problem is allocation of resources.

I worry that while we are trying to secure the outliers, we may be less
aware of the impacts caused by habitat mismanagement on the existing
large metapopulations. The latter typically caused by conservation
organisations engaging in botanical gardening.

In an ideal world we would be looking at both.

I guess having detailed maps that better illustrate status make me
depressed over how much work we still need to do
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote will Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 6:30pm
In connection with the issue of big blocks of habitat, there is the paradoxical negative consequence of securing more habitat such as heathland and consequent large scale inappropriate mismanagement.  I heard a programme on R4 the other day in which the RSPB representative stated that the implication of securing more heathland from Forestry Commission land around the Poole Bournemouth conurbation was that they could start burning the heath again rather than using more intensive kinds of management.  Not sure what NE would say about that ?..
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